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I might not think that The Timeless Children is as chewy as [personal profile] elisi does – though, after a few weeks, I'm also calmer than El Sandifer was in her assessment. (And I'm looking forward to any longer-form thoughts Elisi might have, as she has changed my mind on episodes before.) But Downtime's Tiberian Thoughts discussion just came out and it was definitely chewy.

I'm still digesting, but this bit

The Doctor’s refusal to destroy him and his new race is therefore justified. Because doing so would just keep the cycle going, keep the violence going. Gallifrey is never really gone for long, the Doctor already blew it up once. They are part of the cycle, always stepping in to stop the planet falling into its worst excesses, and always allowing it to be reset to a position where it can fester longer, and exercise its imperialism longer. The Doctor destroying Gallifrey means more angst, a planet turned martyr, us weeping for it, for the burning, long gone past of the show. But she doesn’t – a random character does it, an extra does it. The Doctor is free from Gallifrey


very much recalled, for me, Timewyrm: Revelation:

“So,” the Timewyrm whispered, “It comes to this, as it always had to. The Doctor and the Virus. Why didn’t you kill me, Time Lord?”

“Because my friend did me a great service.” The Doctor met the being’s gaze calmly. “She showed me that there was another option. If I destroyed you, you would only have returned in time. Like my guilt, my remorse, you’re part of a terrible cycle. I can’t take your life. I refuse to. But I can give you peace. Come with me, Ishtar. Let me help you.”

“Why should I trust you?”

“I asked the same question.” Ace stepped forward, a little surprised at her own confidence. “You trust him because you have to trust somebody. Okay, so he’s made a few mistakes, but he’s on the case now.” Ace paused, and looked the Doctor in the eye. “I trust you, Doctor.”

A strange look passed over the Doctor’s face and for a moment Ace thought that the Time Lord was going to cry.


I would instinctively say that “my Doctor” was the Fourth, as the second Doctor I saw and the first one I paid attention to, but it's possible that when I think about it my Doctor could be the Seventh, particularly as written by Paul Cornell…
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